Transcript: January 11th 2013: Confronting the Darkness – The Role of Evil in Steampunk

Heroes can defined by their Villains and Ages sometimes framed by the horrors that occur during them. Tonight we’re discussing the part Evil plays in Steampunk.

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Update: @artificer13 is manning the helm for #SteampunkChat for the Fall/Winter session.

FaublesFables @artificer13 No worries – I just like to look forward to what’s coming next. #steampunkchat -9:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013

artificer13 RT @dreamstobecome: #Steampunkchat #ShamelessPlugs lady nerds and adorable commentary at http://t.co/BYIcfwiu -9:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013

artificer13 @FaublesFables I’m not entirely sure yet. I tend to hash over things for days before I can decide. #steampunkchat -9:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013

dreamstobecome #Steampunkchat #ShamelessPlugs lady nerds and adorable commentary at http://t.co/BYIcfwiu -9:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013

artificer13 @FaublesFables You’re most welcome, thanks for coming out to play tonite. #steampunkchat -9:11 PM Jan 11th, 2013

FaublesFables Wait!!! Topic for the next time? #steampunkchat -9:10 PM Jan 11th, 2013

VonMalcolm I was just following along, but tonight’s #SteampunkChat did inspire a story idea… -9:10 PM Jan 11th, 2013

FaublesFables @VonMalcolm Thanks for the RT – appreciate it!! #steampunkchat -9:09 PM Jan 11th, 2013

artificer13 RT @FaublesFables: #shamelessplug http://t.co/GZz2t5oJ Interactive story… come join me! Free, fun, fast, and silly. #steampunkchat -9:08 PM Jan 11th, 2013

artificer13 Thanks, all, for coming out to play #Steampunkchat tonight! It’s been lovely, as always. Evil is so much fun. -9:08 PM Jan 11th, 2013

VonMalcolm RT @FaublesFables: #shamelessplug http://t.co/3KAe5txT Interactive story… come join me! Free, fun, fast, and silly. #steampunkchat -9:07 PM Jan 11th, 2013

FebruaryGrace Goodnight, fine folks, see you next week! Thanks again for everything! <3 #steampunkchat -9:06 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace Pleased as punch to do it. #Godspeed needs more readers, it’s a lovely story. #steampunkchat -9:05 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @MichelV69 @artificer13 Indeed! Thank you again for another great chat! Always appreciated. #steampunkchat -9:05 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @MichelV69 Thank you for coming out! I really look forward to this as well. #steampunkchat -9:04 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @artificer13 Thanks very much for hosting. I look forward to it all day. #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof RT @MichelV69: Interested in being a char in my next Sauder book,blog has contest: http://t.co/BzeUJb95 #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden RT @MichelV69: Interested in being a char in my next Sauder book,blog has contest: http://t.co/hQJQBuDv #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 RT @MichelV69: Interested in being a char in my next Sauder book,blog has contest: http://t.co/ZOxfbyMY #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden G’night ya’ll – fun #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace RT @MichelV69: Interested in being a char in my next Sauder book,blog has contest: http://t.co/ZOxfbyMY #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 (DJ_Calliope started playing “Red Balloon” by Vagabond Opera http://t.co/Xq9mBO5h ) #steampunkchat -9:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @FebruaryGrace Thank you, and congratulations to you as well. #steampunkchat -9:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 Interested in being a char in my next Sauder book,blog has contest: http://t.co/ZOxfbyMY #steampunkchat -9:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Yeah, I believe it did, and I am grateful for all the tweets and RTs, more than I can say! Thank you, #steampunkchat!!! <3 -9:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof Dinner time here in AK. Goodnight all. Keep up the awesomeness! And support each others projects! You’re all great! #steampunkchat -9:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @JackBateswrites G’nite! Thanks for coming out to play! #steampunkchat -9:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @wakefieldproof I really tried, but it just left me cold and unenthused. #startrek #steampunkchat -9:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @wakefieldproof Me too – I wanted to hate it and ended up loving it #startrek #steampunkchat -9:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @P_Creeden Thank you so much, much appreciated! :~) I will look for you to fan back! #steampunkchat -9:00 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 RT @FaublesFables: General news – just saw this seconds ago: http://t.co/Je7WArhb #steampunkchat -9:00 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites Must run. #Dexter date! #steampunkchat -9:00 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @artificer13 really? Oh no! I really liked the reboot. I thought it was done well, and stayed pretty true to the characters #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @bionicunicorn Congratulations! #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables General news – just saw this seconds ago: http://t.co/5A1Lf18r #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace did it spike after last week? can you check stats? #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @FebruaryGrace I fanned you on wattpad and added it to my library 🙂 #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Thank you so much! I can’t believe that out of millions of stories on the site they noticed mine :~D #steampunkchat -8:59 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @bionicunicorn #Huzzah! that’s absolutely fantastic! #steampunkchat -8:58 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @wakefieldproof I just can’t summon any excitement for the new franchise. 🙁 @JackBateswrites @P_Creeden #startrek #steampunkchat -8:58 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @JackBateswrites Star Trek and Iron Man in one month?! My head may exlode. #steampunkchat -8:58 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @fentonslee <3 #steampunkchat -8:58 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @artificer13 Shameless pat on the back: I had my 1,500th sale in my Etsy shop today. Time to pop some bubbly! #steampunkchat -8:57 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden RT @FebruaryGrace: @artificer13Theyre going to feature Godspeed on February 12. But read it for free NOW http://t.co/WMuhgQZ6 #steampunkchat -8:57 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @wakefieldproof !!!!! #steampunkchat -8:57 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites RT @FebruaryGrace: I have news Im so excited Wattpad contacted me and expressed interest in making Godspeed a featured story! #steampunkchat -8:57 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden RT @JackBateswrites: BSP: Lily Dair Female archaeologist/adventurer http://t.co/Rry1yqhR #steampunkchat -8:57 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 RT @FebruaryGrace: I have news Im so excited Wattpad contacted me & expressed interest in making Godspeed a featured story! #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @JackBateswrites @p_creeden Either way, the movie looks incredible! #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 fentonslee @artificer13 @bionicunicorn best #steampunkchat to lurk in ever tonight courtesy of your antihero talk -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 They’re going to feature Godspeed on February 12. But you can read it for free NOW :~) http://t.co/USpz0W79 #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace That IS lovely news! Congratulations! #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites BSP: Lily Dair Female archaeologist/adventurer http://t.co/TVvWd8e4 #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 I’m going to be playing on turntable.fm for at least another 30 minutes if anyone wants to listen in. #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables #shamelessplug http://t.co/3KAe5txT Interactive story… come join me! Free, fun, fast, and silly. #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @steampatriots is making some changes. I’d love if you followed us and liked us on FB – http://t.co/7aiQ84SR #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Yes! I have news I’m so excited Wattpad contacted me and expressed interest in making Godspeed a featured story! #steampunkchat -8:56 PM Jan 11th, 2013 thegeo #steampunkchat Looks like I missed tonight -.- -8:55 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites This is what I had read: http://t.co/KLjzEIS8 #steampunkchat -8:54 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @P_Creeden Just searched. Everything is now back to Kahn. I had heard a spoiler a few months ago that said different #steampunkchat -8:54 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 Goodness, we’re already down to the last 6 minutes. Anyone have any #ShamelessPlugs? #steampunkchat -8:54 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @P_Creeden He lacks Ricardo’s pecs 😉 #steampunkchat -8:53 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @wakefieldproof Youtube link – for star trek – http://t.co/N0u8DPur #steampunkchat -8:52 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @JackBateswrites I swear it was Kahn #steampunkchat -8:52 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @bionicunicorn I guess I’d argue that it’s the magnitude of personal flaws (Mal is lacking) that makes an antihero. #steampunkchat -8:52 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @wakefieldproof Cumberbatch is Khan, yes – trailer on Youtube #steampunkchat -8:51 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @wakefieldproof Not Kahn. But a character from the series #steampunkchat -8:51 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof changing my gears: is Cumberpatch playing Khan in the new Trek? IMDB says “rumored” #steampunkchat -8:50 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @bionicunicorn Chaotic Good: “Do the Good thing, even if it’s against the law”. Anti-Hero: “Me first… oh, you benefited?” #steampunkchat -8:50 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @artificer13 I loved him so much because somehow you were surprised by him, but then thought “I knew he’d do that.” #steampunkchat -8:49 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @bionicunicorn chaotic would refer to the lack of law abiding-ness. They do what’s right, laws be damned. 1/2 #steampunkchat -8:49 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 ( DJ_Calliope started playing “When Banners Fall” by The Clockwork Dolls http://t.co/Xq9mBO5h ) #steampunkchat -8:48 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @JackBateswrites to deal with “the bigger problem” … until the hero goes back to being “the villian’s biggest problem” #steampunkchat -8:48 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @artificer13 What is the difference between chaotic goodness and antiheroism? I thought they were pretty much the same thing. #steampunkchat -8:48 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @wakefieldproof yup. Mal @bionicunicorn #steampunkchat -8:47 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @JackBateswrites That’s part of my criteria for “good villain”… if (s)he is a zealot to the cause, they’ll use the hero (c) #steampunkchat -8:47 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @MichelV69 #HanSolo thread: Agreed. In New Hope that is it. #steampunkchat -8:46 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @artificer13 are we still talking about Mal? He’s a great character because he’s so complex, but somehow consistent #steampunkchat -8:46 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @JackBateswrites Yes, but I was referring to the story of “A New Hope” in context of the hero vs anti-hero. #steampunkchat -8:44 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @MichelV69 What ruins the hero-villain dependency for survival plot is when they just go back to being enemies. #steampunkchat -8:44 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @bionicunicorn that’s more Chaotic Good than anti-heroic. Breaking a bad law isn’t a bad thing. #steampunkchat -8:44 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @MichelV69 After the first movie (or no. 4) Solo simply became another rebel. #steampunkchat -8:43 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @JackBateswrites I like that so long as 1) it happens no more than once in a story arc, and 2) it’s done out of mutal respect #steampunkchat -8:43 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables Holy cats! Just had an interesting epiphany. Someone needs to overhaul Phantom of the Opera #steampunkstyle !!!! #steampunkchat -8:43 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @artificer13 True, but didn’t he shoot an undercover Alliance agent and dump him on a border planet? #steampunkchat -8:42 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @JackBateswrites agreed #steampunkchat -8:42 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites It’s bothersome to me when the hero-villain dynamic breaks down in the ‘must work together’ plot #steampunkchat -8:41 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @FaublesFables Haha, yes he is a questionable dumb-ass with some good intentions. #steampunkchat -8:40 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 (prof elemental’s “Steam Powered” just came on at http://t.co/Xq9mBO5h ) #steampunkchat -8:39 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @bionicunicorn he’s close, but I’d argue that his default is “Fair” w/unhealthy side of “I’ma stop that cause it ain’t right” #steampunkchat -8:39 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @JackBateswrites We remember Han Solo because 1) he shot first, 2) he came back -only- to lend a hand #steampunkchat -8:38 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @bionicunicorn To that end, if we’re counting Firefly, Jayne’s a pretty good mixed bag #steampunkchat -8:38 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites RT @MichelV69: Anti-heroes dont last. (True. Look at Snake Pliskin in Escape from NY. In the sequel, he became a joke) #steampunkchat -8:37 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @wakefieldproof No, I think Gollum’s job was to be “the expendable warning”. #steampunkchat -8:37 PM Jan 11th, 2013 bionicunicorn @artificer13 Malcolm Reynolds is a close example for a #steampunk antihero @FebruaryGrace #steampunkchat -8:36 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 I haven’t read as widely as I should to try to answer that- I defer to you I’m sure if there was one you’d know! #steampunkchat -8:36 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @artificer13 Anti-heroes don’t last. Eventually, they alienate the reader or viewer. I don’t tend to use them. #steampunkchat -8:36 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @artificer13 Captain Jack Harkness from #Torchwood (#DrWho spin off) #steampunkchat -8:35 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @artificer13 Not really… maybe this impulse of mine to love a bad guy just shows I need some serious help! 😉 #steampunkchat -8:35 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @FaublesFables You just did #steampunkchat -8:34 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace Can you think of an iconic #steampunk antihero like Jack? I can’t to date. @FaublesFables #steampunkchat -8:33 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables (Sorry for the sudden silence… trying to get my Tweet count to update – am about to hit 500 and want to say something EPIC) #steampunkchat -8:33 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof Do you think Gollum was used as a physical villain to juxtapose Sauron’s detachedness? Sorry, I know it’s not steampunk #steampunkchat -8:33 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 @FaublesFables I’m thinking of Jack Sparrow now. Hero who can also do villainous things when he sees fit #steampunkchat -8:32 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @artificer13 There’s that or just plain compelling baddie… someone you are half in love with because they’re magnetic. #steampunkchat -8:32 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @MichelV69 Good stuff. #steampunkchat -8:31 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @FaublesFables I write stories (RPG & literature) & so I’ve spent a lot of time figuring out what makes a compelling villian #steampunkchat -8:31 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FaublesFables The “Loveable Rogue”? It’s always good when you’ve got a hot baddie. #steampunkchat -8:30 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites @dreamstobecome 11th Doctor fan? (Assumption on your pic) #steampunkchat -8:29 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @MichelV69 You’re great!!! I wanted to ask for an answer like that at the end of chat! Brills! #steampunkchat -8:28 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites Dickensian villains are pretty well rounded as well #steampunkchat -8:27 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables New angle not yet addressed directly – the sexy of villany. 🙂 Loves me some baddies. #steampunkchat -8:27 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @dreamstobecome Hey! Welcome aboard! #Steampunkchat -8:27 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 (also .. http://t.co/Xq9mBO5h if you want to listen to some steampunk music right now ) #steampunkchat -8:27 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @wakefieldproof Which plays in well to the “bad guy” who become bad due to his perspective… can lead to good sequels. #steampunkchat -8:27 PM Jan 11th, 2013 dreamstobecome I like a good nasty but loveable villain. More chaotic neutral than pure evil. But being a foil in some cases IS important. #Steampunkchat -8:26 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 To me, a “good villain” has to have two attributes … zealotry to his cause, and a (for now) bigger problem than the hero #steampunkchat -8:26 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @FaublesFables Yes! I like when they break the hero down and make him re-evaluate everything #steampunkchat -8:25 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites Big Jim Remy in #UndertheDome is one of the best villains I’ve encountered in a while #steampunkchat -8:25 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @FaublesFables (Yes, I like to break heros.) #steampunkchat -8:25 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @FebruaryGrace Very true. Sometimes the bad, bad guy is just so evil, he MUST be defeated. #steampunkchat -8:25 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites You know who makes some really good bad guys? #StephenKing. #steampunkchat -8:24 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @wakefieldproof Or even if it’s just a terrific ride, at least they change the hero… #steampunkchat -8:24 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 I think it depends on the story. Sometimes you just want a bad, bad guy but others you want someone sympathetic #steampunkchat -8:24 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof they can’t be two-dimensional. #steampunkchat -8:24 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites Vs need some motivation. I think sometimes that’s what helps develop them. #steampunkchat -8:23 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @JackBateswrites Good to see you #steampunkchat -8:23 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @artificer13 I think a good story has a villain that’s more than just someone to defeat. He must make us “feel” something #steampunkchat -8:23 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @JackBateswrites Good evening! #steampunkchat -8:23 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @JackBateswrites ‘evening! We’re neck deep in (fictional) Evil right now #Steampunkchat -8:22 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @MichelV69 Indeed #steampunkchat -8:22 PM Jan 11th, 2013 JackBateswrites Hello all! #steampunkchat -8:21 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @FebruaryGrace V fun – though it does depend on the plot whether that works out… a.k.a. what drives the tale #steampunkchat -8:21 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 How are Villains used? Are they simply a foil for the Hero, or should they be sympathetic/misunderstood/loveable characters? #Steampunkchat -8:21 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 @wakefieldproof Magneto of the X-Men paper comics fell into that type. #steampunkchat -8:20 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @MichelV69 ‘allo. Quick CliffsNotes – evil is good, er, great. Trickery divine. And anti-heros are the order of the day. 😉 #steampunkchat -8:20 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @MichelV69 Good evening! #steampunkchat -8:20 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @FebruaryGrace I do like stories that have scallawags pitted against scallawags #steampunkchat -8:19 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @MichelV69 welcome aboard! #Steampunkchat -8:19 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @MichelV69 Evening! #steampunkchat -8:18 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace How about when you can’t tell who is who, hero or villain, until near the end? Confuse the issue a little. #steampunkchat -8:18 PM Jan 11th, 2013 MichelV69 G’evening, all. #steampunkchat -8:18 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @FebruaryGrace redemption is a great theme. especially for a “good” character who makes a bad choice that affects the hero. #steampunkchat -8:17 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @wakefieldproof that happeed on Once last Sun – she was at the stake and looked like she’d be repentant – nope, just kidding. #steampunkchat -8:17 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @artificer13 yes – all three do rather go hand in hand… #steampunkchat -8:16 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof orrrrr, another twist – just when you think the villain has been redeemed, he returns to his old ways #steampunkchat -8:16 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @P_Creeden or all three in one horrible chain of events?! #Mwhahaha #Steampunkchat -8:15 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @wakefieldproof Which brings us to a topic I’ve been dying to discuss- the Anti-Hero. Does #Steampunk have any iconic ones? #Steampunkchat -8:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @P_Creeden not steampunk, but “Name of the Wind” did it very well, having the hero mess everything up. Great fantasy novel. #steampunkchat -8:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 There is a difference between pure evil &those who appear evil cause they’re wounded. They might find redemption #steampunkchat -8:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables (Noticing how very strange this conversation looks in my Twitter stream. whahaha! – yes, that’s an evil laugh) #steampunkchat -8:14 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @artificer13 Okay then – daddy issues, abandonment, an over-indulgent mother? #steampunkchat -8:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Also good – driven insane by a project…. madder than a hatter! 🙂 #steampunkchat -8:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @wakefieldproof Classic “Marvel Comics” style of hero, where they’re basically a villain in the eyes of the public! *** #Steampunkchat -8:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof Or, when you can kinda see things from the villain’s perspective. #steampunkchat -8:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @wakefieldproof I do like it better that way – the winner always loses, but wins in the end. #steampunkchat -8:13 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Either, or both, of those are good. Childhood trauma could be it, too. 1/2 #steampunkchat -8:12 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @P_Creeden I’m VERY Pro-World Domination, but that’s a goal more than backstory, surely? 😉 #Steampunkchat -8:12 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @artificer13 when the hero is blamed is always interesting #steampunkchat -8:11 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables @artificer13 Or the fantasy version of Devil. The Big Bad. The Opposite of Good. #steampunkchat -8:11 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof I also like when the hero just can’t seem to win…until the very end. It’s so frustrating when the villain is one step ahead #steampunkchat -8:11 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden @artificer13 world domination? 🙂 #steampunkchat -8:11 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FaublesFables like “The Devil” type of evil? #Steampunkchat -8:10 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace what makes for a good “it turned them evil” backstory? Spurned love? Injustice at the hands of others? #Steampunkchat -8:10 PM Jan 11th, 2013 KLTaguiam RT @P_Creeden: And every Villain is the hero in his own mind, right? #steampunkchat -8:10 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof @P_Creeden Yes, someone who just drives you crazy. #steampunkchat -8:09 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables Yeah, I see a lot of evil genius… genre lends itself to that… but I am trying in my own stuff to use Pure Evil. #steampunkchat -8:08 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof Villains like Sauron are nice too. Defeat them or else we’re all doomed. #steampunkchat -8:08 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace RT @P_Creeden: And every Villain is the hero in his own mind, right? #steampunkchat -8:08 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden And every Villain is the hero in his own mind, right? #steampunkchat -8:07 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 Like I like my ‘evil’ in any fiction: with some sort of real motivation behind it. A backstory, you could say. #steampunkchat -8:07 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden Evil Genius is good – Like Sherlock’s Moriarty 🙂 #steampunkchat -8:07 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FaublesFables Sorry I’m late, fav ep of Doctor Who was on. Ah, I see evil is the order of the day… excellent. #steampunkchat -8:06 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof I love to see a character that we think is evil – by his actions, what people say – but then find otherwise, ie Snape #steampunkchat -8:06 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 Let’s dive right in with Evil in #steampunk fiction. How do you use it or like to see it portrayed? #steampunkchat -8:05 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 @wakefieldproof Thanks! I hope everyone is having a good evening so far #steampunkchat -8:03 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @FebruaryGrace Hello to you and @wakefieldproof as well! #Steampunkchat -8:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 FebruaryGrace @artificer13 …and already I forget the hashtag #steampunkchat. As I was saying I’m not feeling well but I’m here! -8:02 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof Hello! I made it! #steampunkchat -8:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @P_Creeden Welcome aboard! #steampunkchat -8:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 Good Evening all! Who is out there in the Aether tonight? #Steampunkchat -8:01 PM Jan 11th, 2013 P_Creeden I’m here early for once 🙂 #steampunkchat -8:00 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @DelilahSDawson for #Steampunkchat we’re discussing the role of Evil in #Steampunk, if you are stuck for the time being. #justsaying -7:47 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 @fentonslee understood. lots of people fighting off the crud. Feel better soon. #steampunkchat -7:46 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 20 min until #Steampunkchat! Tonite’s Topic: Confronting the Darkness- The Role of Evil in #Steampunk. Join in! http://t.co/p7p4vbmB … … -7:37 PM Jan 11th, 2013 wakefieldproof RT @artificer13: Tonite at 9pmEST 6pmPST on #Steampunkchat: Confronting the Darkness. The Role of Evil in #Steampunk. Join in! http://t.co/p7p4vbmB -7:19 PM Jan 11th, 2013 thegeo #steampunkchat May not make it/be late tonight, sorry everyone! -6:44 PM Jan 11th, 2013 Winneganfake RT @artificer13: 3hrs until #Steampunkchat! Tonite’s Topic: Confronting the Darkness- The Role of Evil in #Steampunk. Join in! http://t.co/p7p4vbmB … -5:45 PM Jan 11th, 2013 artificer13 3hrs until #Steampunkchat! Tonite’s Topic: Confronting the Darkness- The Role of Evil in #Steampunk. Join in! http://t.co/p7p4vbmB … -4:54 PM Jan 11th, 2013

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